I would like to see the Zhentarim on TSM, it would make sense especially since per the FR Campaign Setting Winters Edge was founded by "retired" Zhent soldiers. Im not saying a town openly controlled by them, more of a covert type operation.

It sure would make more sense then Thayans, but I thought the Zhentarim were pretty much caught up in the Dalelands for now?

I have a newbie like Zhent and sent my ideas to Stoney (I think). My guy is very low level and I do not play him much atm because of the lack of others. If more were to come, I would probably play him more.

Correct Secret, however, just like every other organization bent on world domination they always have schemes going elsewhere, not to mention their semi legitimate merchant and caravan operations.

It just seems to be a bit of a stretch for a full on organization with a real directive, though it would be neat to see a few more Zhent characters about, I've considered playing an Ex-Zhent from Winters Edge before...

But yeah, from what I understand the Zhent's purpose in the marches is sort of just wait until we need you for something and don't start trouble...which would sort of go against forming a real group with actual goals...because that's just likely to start trouble.

What I meant by covert was not causing any trouble, spies in the shadows sort of thing. If you have WoTc supplement Lords of Darkness it also says they are beginning to work with the Thayans as well.

The Zhents would want trade in the area to falter so their enterprises flourish. They would want to control the illicit drug trade and perhaps other illegal enterprises in the marches. My character was going to come here and try to disrupt trading ventures as well as establish some form of illegal narcotics ring.

He was also looking to become a spy network of sorts by trying to find out where the Zhents stand in the area.

suggestion. hidden temple of bane beneath Winter's Edge

Banes still dead.

Long Live Iyachtu Xvim

...for now

Xvim and Bane are the same god with a different name. Shame on you all for not reading every WoTc sourcebook there is.

I think we have a little too much going on at once as it is, especially now with the new Thayan Enclave. Especially if the intention is to make it another guild/faction of sorts. We have way too many of those that don't even have enough players to fill their ranks. That's just my opinion, though.

Ah! Perhaps I should have clarified, I didnt mean a player guild, but an NPC faction, to have an ever present "bad guy". Those of you who played on DD remember Teshwave, what I propose is something similar, but without any players being members. The only hitch I see is the treaty that Khelban signed with Fzoul which prevents Zhent expansion past a certain geographical area, but I think Winters Edge was there before that happened.

Yendis of Tyr wrote: Xvim and Bane are the same god with a different name. Shame on you all for not reading every WoTc sourcebook there is.